Frama. Nice. Heavy. Heaviest Geometric I've seen. Ever. Heavier than the heaviest Avant Garde. More geometric than Futura Extra Super Titanic. Klim Type made a new Futura. They call it "The Future". Extremely well done. But Frama gets heavier and that's the challenge with the Geometric Sans'. Takes a lot of skill to get them super heavy and still work. PP Frama